In all the software management roles I've had, two as manager of ICs and two as manager of managers, I've been punished:
I've been using Manager Tools' practices and my teams achieved better results than they previously did, they evidently achieved better results than other teams, and they had remarkable retention, especially comparing to other teams. (As an example, my team is the only one who delivered the most important project on time, due to my decisions on staffing).
I did maintain close, trustful and friendly relationship with the my managers, weekly 1:1s, communicated often and even became a trusted person to whom they shared sensitive information.
When I finally received negative feedback from my manager (close to being fired or demoted), they acknowlegded I built a lot of trust, my reports were growing, and acknowlegde these accomplishments, but mentioned that they were due to either their own past decisions / the teams themselves / normal evolution.
To add insult to injury, manager whose teams delivered poor results, were late on delivery, freauently gave false-promises and underdelivered, and suffered from high attrition did receive positive feedback.
I was clear with the managers from the start about how I achieve results and continuously aligned on goals.
Maybe you can propose ideas about what I am missing here? I tried to reflect but not sure what to do differently next time.
I realize this is anecdotal, and I wonder whether results and retention are important.
Thank you!

Yaniv-
Yaniv-
We are sorry to hear of this outcome. In 20 years of sharing our guidance, this is the first time I've heard of such an egregious failure of leadership.
That said, while it surprises and saddens me, I am NOT shocked. The state of leaederhip in the middle of organizations is particularly bad. All kinds of choices are made which I don't understand, and when I ask, I get bad answers and weak responses.
If I were in your shoes, I would probably feel like you do. Why am I doing it in what I think is the right way and being punished? It would be reasonable for you to give up your efforts. I hope you won't, but I would understand it.
I do have an idea though. How would you feel about me sharing this story with our community in our weekly Things We Think We Think, and asking for the software senior managers and directors and leaders if they have a role that you could be considered for? Our community is always asking for ways to connect with fellow managers who do things the Manager Tools way. Maybe you're just in the wrong company, and being in the right one would allow you the trust and alignment to keep doing things the right way, and get rewarded and not punished?
Mark Horstman
Co-Founder
In reply to Yaniv- by Mark Horstman
I will definitely not give up!
Thank you so much for the response.
I simply admire everything you do, and I am proud of what I was able to achieve for these organizations and teams. According to my direct reports and their direct reports, I have set a new bar for management from their perspective, and it's all thanks to you. To make it as sharp as possible - I have no complaint about the advice, quite the opposite. Not surprisingly, the guidance works!
I believe it's a combination of the three:
1) My own behavior, which due to the lack of clear feedback I cannot describe the flaws
2) "Inattention to results" which Pat Lencioni talks about, and I consider unethical
3) Lack of culture fit, which can happen, and ideally discovered early on
I am more concerned with my own behavior and how to be more effective in the future in feedbackless environments.
I am grateful for your suggestion to include the story. This is very kind of you. I am located in Berlin Germany, where the market for software managers is rather limited, but I am always happy to connect with other MTMs (Manager Tools Managers)!
I wonder if there is some lesson there as well, or simply me missing some obvious and crucial guidance.
Thank you again!
Yaniv